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Illegal mole traps found on WA Capitol grounds

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by DREW MIKKELSEN / KING 5 News

NWCN.com

Posted on February 2, 2010 at 4:55 PM

Updated Tuesday, Feb 2 at 6:47 PM

OLYMPIA, Wash. - The state Capitol's landscaping crews have been violating the ban on mole traps for years, a state spokesman said Tuesday.

"It was just an oversight on the part of our grounds staff," said General Administration spokesperson Steve Valandra.

Valandra said the crews were, "Unaware these sort of traps were outlawed."

Voters approved the ban on so-called "body gripping" traps in 2000.

The grounds crews were using seven of the banned traps in the late winter months prior to the traditional mole mating season. On average, 24 moles are trapped and killed a year, according to Valandra.

The state removed the traps Tuesday morning after State Representative Joel Kretz, R-Okanagan County, alerted Fish and Wildlife officials.

"To me, it's a real good example of the arrogance in Olympia," said Rep. Kretz, "The citizens are not able to operate like this."

A Fish and Wildlife spokesperson said the General Administration Department received a warning about the traps. Warnings are traditionally issued to first-time offenders.

The grounds crews are looking at alternative pest control measures, said Valandra.


 

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edrag571 said on July 23, 2010 at 4:28 PM

i cant find anywere that hb 1400 passed if u have that info please show me as far as i have read the pill was passed over and never signed thanks eric @edrag571@yahoo.com

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vectorvictor said on February 5, 2010 at 11:36 AM

I can't take it any more. House Bill 1400 of the 07-08 legislature specifically exempted mouse, rat, mole and gopher traps. PEOPLE! Check your sources! What a bungle! http://apps.leg.wa.gov/documents/billdocs/2007-08/Pdf/Bills/House%20Bills/1400.pdf

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yourekidding said on February 4, 2010 at 12:13 PM

I'm sure PETA will have a fit over this...imagine! Oh, no!! We're being cruel to MOLES!!! Good Lord...moles?? Don't get your panties in a knot, folks. They're not good for much, you know, other than entertaining critters who catch them and don't eat them. Must taste bad! Get a grip!

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tacwilster said on February 3, 2010 at 4:32 PM

I think the point is beign missed here, the government passes a law, as citizens we would all face a hefty fine!!! But they can ignore the law and not get fined at all!! The laws do not pertain to government people, remember that, it isn't about the law it is about who the law is aimed at and it ain't the government, oh yeah all the grounds keepers are spanish speaking and so they couldn't read the law!!!

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jcman said on February 3, 2010 at 2:27 PM

In answer to the shotgun approach, it's only legal if discharging a weapon is legal in your yard. Certainly not in most cities. If Kretz is upset about the building & grounds crew, why doesn't he present an amendment to the law that exempts mole traps instead of getting on the case of the employees trying to help keep the grounds looking nice. I trapped moles several years ago, got seven in an area about 100 X100 and they kept coming into the yard. Moles are territorial and cover 1/2 to 1 acre each. Trap one another takes it's place. I finally gave up trying to get them out of my hay field and just run the backblade over the field a couple times a year to knock down the hills so they don't grow grass and become big bumps. My neighbor had one of those underground mole killer layers come in. Got rid of the moles for that year but this year I noticed she has just as many hills as before and who knows what those poisons do to the groundwater.

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dennilane said on February 3, 2010 at 2:25 PM

I don't believe the groundskeeper guy. They knew & probably didn't bother to stop using them figuring they would not be caught because usually those traps are buried & not seen. I know, cause I have used that style before (different brand) and I'll use them again in a heartbeat if I come across moles again! The law is stupid & it should be removed.

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victorw said on February 3, 2010 at 1:20 PM

Great law, now people will resort to chemicals that kill the moles food supply in the lawn so that they move to the neighbors and the chemicals wash into Puget Sound. Can you imagine how those grubs suffer when they are poisoned, thanks PETA.

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cvn65 said on February 3, 2010 at 10:02 AM

Easy mistake to make. Boy I can just hear PETA now.

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__m96__ said on February 3, 2010 at 8:44 AM

is it okay to shotgun the little pests when you see them coming up?

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camanojoe said on February 3, 2010 at 8:14 AM

This is obviously a re-training issue. The grounds crew should have known that this was a violation of the law by the simple fact that the traps were "actually working". Had they simply obeyed the law they would have known to look for an increase in mole hills and the doubling of the grounds staff as the measure for compliance. They obviously didn't understand how Olympia measures the success of their new laws.

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morganthomas said on February 3, 2010 at 8:05 AM

Hey Kretz get a life! Moles are a rodent and serve no purpose other than to feed owls and cats. They are a pest. Who cares how they are trapped?

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mole_free said on February 3, 2010 at 8:05 AM

Half the people in the state violate this dumb law, and there's no way the state is going to enforce this. It's just silly. I like the trapline mole traps that came out a couple years ago, and they can't be seen by the mole trap cops.

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firefoxtwo said on February 3, 2010 at 8:03 AM

I still use mole traps. It's the only way you can get rid of them except for what Tiffi said about Pam Roach. I'm sorry she's from my district. Legislators get real, and go to work taxing Boeing so they'll move out of state.

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fedupinwa said on February 3, 2010 at 7:24 AM

Factiod, sorry . Guess we were thinking the same thing. Better come & lock me up, I got traps out in my yard as I type this. LOL

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fedupinwa said on February 3, 2010 at 7:20 AM

Typical Olypima, " Do as I say,not as I do "

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logic14 said on February 3, 2010 at 5:35 AM

elgatomalo has a good point. I think there is major problems much bigger than moles that deserve his attention. Stop wonder the Campus and get your #&^ to work.

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logic14 said on February 3, 2010 at 5:33 AM

What a rediculous statement by Rep. Kretz. Why not be a good person and just educate the grounds keepers. What a little cry baby. I bet he ran to his mother as a child too. I hope that people watching Rep. Kretz don't allow him to make any mistakes whatsoever. It sounds like he would want you to notifiy the press and authorities if he were making a mistake. I wonder if he goes 1-5 MPH over the speed limit. Maybe if he does he should be asked to resign.

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littledude said on February 3, 2010 at 2:58 AM

I think the landscapers were hoping Gov. gargoyle would stumble ac crossed the traps!!

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fishkepr said on February 3, 2010 at 12:39 AM

Some of you are not understanding Kretz's statement correctly. He did this to point out that the state passed a law that imposed a poorly written ban on the people while the GOVERNMENT felt it was above the law and conveniently ignored it. He's trying to make a point that the law should apply to EVERYONE or NO ONE (i.e. rewritten). Victor55, obviously the WDFW feels that the law DOES cover the mole traps because the GA sent the warning that the capitol groundskeepers were in violation.

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victor55 said on February 2, 2010 at 11:09 PM

How silly can this thing get. What about the mouse trap under the sink? It's a body gripping trap. Let's ask for the Gov. or AG to come out and make a statement like before. We don't need one more thing to make people outraged around here. People get very defensive when damage is being done to their property which costs thousands of dollars and they're being held hostage. We need to put a stop to it now

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victor55 said on February 2, 2010 at 10:55 PM

How quickly Rep. Kretz seems to forget a few years back when we've been down this same road. It was never meant to include the mole trap. Animal rights activists were concerned about coyotes , fox,racoons being trapped with steel traps ( the kind they step into). Local TV stations showed clips as such. The TV stations also aired interviews from property owners outraged that the moles were destroying their lawns and threatened to send the State the bill for their new lawn. Gov. Gary Locke finally had enough and stated in an interview that " we are not going to enforce the trapping of the common backyard mole unless it is dangled in front of law enforcement's face." Gov.,people should be able to trap moles

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layer said on February 2, 2010 at 10:06 PM

PMS

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pattycasa said on February 2, 2010 at 9:54 PM

Oh my goodness! I've broken that law soooooo many times!

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pumpkinator said on February 2, 2010 at 9:54 PM

Kretz, you are a self serving old fool. You only took those photos and turned in hard working state workers who didnt know they were "breaken the law" just to try and further your own pitiful agenda about some personal beef you have with the Dept of Fish & Wildlife. Why dont you stop your whinning and go do the work you were elected to do for a change? Or better yet go stick your head in a mole hill, never know with that big mouth of yours maybe you'll catch one and actually be of some service to the tax payers. What a looser....

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factoid said on February 2, 2010 at 9:16 PM

Typical Government. Do as we say, not as we do.

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rupert said on February 2, 2010 at 8:00 PM

Let Pam bite their head off when they surface....

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tparty said on February 2, 2010 at 7:40 PM

Right On Bezwest, What a great comment. Moles eat worms too, so should we get rid of them too?

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thunderbird3 said on February 2, 2010 at 7:30 PM

G Force To The Rescue!

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chacelangee said on February 2, 2010 at 7:15 PM

Amen Billybob.........get rid of the grubs and so long to the moles. There are good products to take care of what the moles feed on. However, the only thing in my opinion and experience that works on the moles is the sizzor trap. Olympia, can we not deal with bigger and more important issues.

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fellowtraveller said on February 2, 2010 at 6:54 PM

That this story should appear on Groundhog's Day.....and not be somebody's idea of a joke? Six more weeks of the legislature, for sure.

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billybobbrubeck said on February 2, 2010 at 6:48 PM

Hey....It's not a mole problem, It's a grub problem. No traps needed for grubs.

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kimdwan said on February 2, 2010 at 6:24 PM

This is sooooooooooooooo stupid!!!! We should all be able to use traps to rid our lawns of moles!!!!!!!!!!

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bazwest said on February 2, 2010 at 6:08 PM

The capitol grounds crew should repeatedly play the moles a tape of Christine Gregoire explaining why she should raise our taxes. The moles would soon be begging for the "body gripping" traps to be reinstated.

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tiffi said on February 2, 2010 at 6:02 PM

There is an easy solution to this. Put Pam Roach-Clip out on the capital grounds for an evening and there won't be a mole this side or Sacramento!

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elgatomalo said on February 2, 2010 at 5:58 PM

Kretz, you IDIOT, quit worrying about the moles and GET TO WORK! This is the stupidest law in the world. If moles are in my lawn, I trap them. We've got a $2,600,000,000 deficit in this state and you're worried about MOLES! This just shows how SCREWED UP you and our state government is! Do you know how hard it is to express feelings about your STUPIDITY without using profanity? %$#()*& %^$!))^%":

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red_rocker said on February 2, 2010 at 5:57 PM

Holy Moley!

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graham said on February 2, 2010 at 5:49 PM

Oh gee so the had mole traps big deal who wants them little pests to wreck a law, hell i trap moles in our yard every summer & who ever the nut was the came up with the stupid idea of no moke traps i have a great idea catch all your moles & dump them in this idots yard & let them have fun in his or her yard sounds like something srupid PETA would come up with

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washingtonskier said on February 2, 2010 at 5:40 PM

well i i think that the state has some minor corruption issues...... PS can't wait till peta hears of this maybe the will dig a bunch of holes jump in them cover them selves with dirt and put signs on top of the dirt filled holes saying "we are going through what the mole goes through to prove a point".... that would be awesome i would listen to that protest

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bluemax2001 said on February 2, 2010 at 5:30 PM

That was a poorly written law. The mole traps should not have been included. Moles are pests and the traps are underground where no pets or other animals could get caught by them. And if leg hold traps are illegal through that same law, how come they were used to trap the coyote last week in Seattle?

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speedracer said on February 2, 2010 at 5:01 PM

Bill Murray

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