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Investigators: Businesses buying your credit card number

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by CHRIS INGALLS / KING 5 News

NWCN.com

Posted on March 9, 2010 at 12:01 AM

Updated Tuesday, Mar 9 at 6:52 PM

$10 here. $15 there. 

By putting little charges on your credit card  some companies are making tens of millions of dollars a year. These are businesses that you never gave your credit card number to.

Some consumer groups call it fraud, but it may be perfectly legal.

Christie Frison-Thornton, of Rainier, spotted a $19.95 charge just a few weeks ago.   A company called "Privacy Matters" billed her credit card.

"I thought what the heck is this? Cause I really did not have a clue," said Frison-Thornton.

A check of back statements found more charges, dating back six months.

She called "Privacy Matters," which said it got her credit card number from a company she did recognize, Classmates.com, the school reunion Web site on which she entered her credit card number last summer.

"It's really scary when it's a company you think you can trust and you can't," said Frison-Thornton.

Internet companies call this "post transaction marketing." To consumers it might feel more like electronic pickpocketing.

Some time after Frison-Thornton gave her credit card number to Classmates, a survey or free trial offer probably popped up. It didn't ask for her credit card number or any personal information so she clicked it.

But she didn't know that meant classmates would sell her credit card number to another company, like "Privacy Matters" which, ironically, offers a credit card protection service. Yet it put unwanted charges on Frison-Thornton's bill.

"I feel like my credit card was fraudulently used," she said.

Internet companies argue that customers agree to the release of their credit card information in disclaimers often buried in fine print.

Washington Attorney General Rob McKenna says evidence collected by his office shows many consumers are being tricked.

"In our state alone we estimate that over a four-year period companies using these tactics took about $50 million from Washington residents,” said McKenna. “It's a huge amount."

McKenna testified last year as the U.S. Senate considered tightening the law.

Washington's legislature has twice considered bills. But there's still no criminal law against it and authorities can only stop the worst violators by using time-consuming lawsuits.

"The complaints mount every year,” said McKenna. “Sometimes we can take action on them and sometimes we can't because they're not strictly speaking illegal."

After last year's senate hearings some companies say they stopped selling credit card numbers to third parties.

Intelius in Bellevue, which wouldn't comment on camera, says it cut off its business relationship with Privacy Matters.

Renton-based Classmates.com also turned down an interview request. It provided KING 5 with a transcript of its CEO’s announcement in January that Classmates "terminated" such agreements.

But he also admitted Classmates made $20 million last year from these controversial tactics and that the company is working on a new model for "post transaction offerings."

Frison-Thornton thinks that can't be good for her. "I will never go to classmates.com, again,” she said.

Experts say the best advice is not to click any surveys or free trial offers because it's hard to be sure exactly what you're agreeing to.

Frison-Thornton got her money back from Privacy Matters, but others have complained they’ve had a hard time getting refunds and subscriptions canceled.

Editor's note: This story has changed from the original version that was published on March 8.

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scott_bellevue said on March 10, 2010 at 8:51 AM

This happens in lots of ways, where credit card companies and credit reporting companies put things on our records and charge us for things we haven't explicitly agreed to. Why is it that the credit reporting agencies have our social security numbers, and charge us for our own credit reports. I've NEVER given my social security number to one of these companies, nor have I ever willingly allowed them to buy and sell my personal information, and yet they do. The whole Opt out phenomenon should be illegal too. But this is all because corporations are now uber citizens with far more power than a real person, as opposed to a corporate person. Lastly, I tried classmates.com for a year, but they were so predatory and nasty I finally had to block all email and contact with them, and even had to call my credit card company and file a complaint for fraudulent use.

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treeclimber said on March 9, 2010 at 11:04 PM

THIS TYPE OF FRAUD IS EVERY WHERE .ITS BECAUSE THE COURT SYSTEM IS RUN BY CORRUPT LAWYERS .EVEN WHEN THEY ARE BROUGHT TO COURT' BUY A PROSECUTER WHO IS A LAWYER 'THEY ARE TOLD BY A (STAND IN JUDGE) WHO'S NOTHING BUT A LAWYER... BECAUSE THEY ARE FIRST TIME OFFENDER'S ,, NOT TO DO IT AGAIN AND SENT ON THERE WAY.. LAYER PUTS MONEY IN HIS POCKET JUDGE GOES BACK TO HIS LAW FIRM.AS LONG AS LAWYERS ARE IN CHARGE OF THE COURT SYSTEM .THE CRIMELS WILL GET THE BIG END OF THE STICK,AND THE PEOPLE WILL GET THE OTHER END..RIGHT WHERE IT HURTS UP....... IN THE POCKET BOOK .LAWYER GETS MONEY CRIMNALS GO'S FREE.PEOPLE PAY..

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carlconstantine said on March 9, 2010 at 11:02 PM

This is one reason that I gave up credit cards back in the late 90's when I was a fresh out of school. Credit cards are more trouble than they are worth!

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noskills said on March 9, 2010 at 9:46 PM

Capitalism at work my friends :)

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healthmn said on March 9, 2010 at 8:24 PM

Watch out for Pro Flowers as well. They have a discount offered on your orders but the catch is you have to pay about $15 a month to belong to this program. The program is offered through some other partner company of theirs. We never signed up for this, but luckily we caught the charge on our bill and was reimbursed for charges. Sneaky! Itemize every purchase!

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webduckie4902190 said on March 9, 2010 at 1:14 PM

Years ago I signed up for Classmates.com and found out later they had 'enrolled' me in something additional for $72! When I called to cancel Classmates, the woman told me about that enormous charge. I thought maybe she was wrong, but she assured me she wasn't and said my credit card would show a refund. Talk about underhanded and sneaky, not to mention illegal. Classmates is not worth the money anyway since it's just a gateway to sell you stuff and share your name with other people, which you can do for free on Facebook or the like.

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wannadanc said on March 9, 2010 at 9:22 AM

My first stop will be at Classmates - yes, it will!!!!!!!!!!!!

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collegeguy said on March 9, 2010 at 6:56 AM

I can't imagine how this ISN'T illegal. There is no reason companies should be selling your credit/debit card info at all, especially with all the identity theft and fraud nowadays. Any and all companies should be facing massive fines for selling card information. But this is why you should have an account strictly for use on the internet and not just the one card you use on a regular basis, that way when you go online to purchase stuff, as soon as something like this happens, you can cancel the card and it doesn't affect your main account.

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eveningkiss said on March 9, 2010 at 4:15 AM

I had Fandango do that to me last summer. I bought 2 tickets and they sold my information to someone else. I got mad, called my bank and the company. Had my credit card number changed and got my money refunded.

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laurie5561014919 said on March 9, 2010 at 12:45 AM

How is it possible that companies can charge you for items you didn't order? Just because another company had small print that says they can give away your card number? This is where the legal profession has apparently forgotten the basics - a transaction should be based on something of value being exchanged with the consent of buyer and seller. Post-transaction offerings - Spare me! Classmates.com should be investigated . They put me on automatic renewal (which is the default when you sign up), then didn't even send a renewal notice - just charged my card. When I complained, they claimed they didn't want to 'bother' me with a notice. They refused to refund my money, but after much arguing on 'chat' and then with a supervisor by phone, finally agreed to give me a 'promotional' offer - Gold membership for the standard membership price. They also agreed to remove the automatic renewal. After reading this article, I am cancelling my membership forever.

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think said on March 9, 2010 at 12:30 AM

Everyone should cancel their Classmates.com accounts, and spread-the-word. Collectively, put them out-of-business!

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